Monday, April 06, 2009

Praag Celebrates New ANC-Afrikaner Entente

To me this feels like the 1992 Referendum and 1994 Codesa talks all over again. I prefer to see action this time before listening to more reassuring words from Zuma and the ANC. Also, by PRAAG choosing to attack "the Engelsman", they are falling for the trap Zuma has set for them, divide and rule. You'd think an Afrikaner group like PRAAG had learnt their lesson. We need all whites in SA united as one force. It's unbelievable that these people cannot see it.

PRAAG (the Pro-Afrikaans Action Group) joined in the standing ovation that Jacob Zuma received from the assembly of Afrikaner delegates at yesterday's meeting at the Hilton Hotel in Sandton. For perhaps the first time since the early nineties, Afrikaners had spoken frankly about the many issues bothering them in the new South Africa, such as the domination of English monoculture, violent crime, land reform, the new gun laws, corruption and the dilapidation of state resources such as the SABC, SAA, Eskom and others.

After the gathering, Dr. Dan Roodt, leader of PRAAG, told reporters: "I feel very positive about the outcome of the meeting and have the impression that foreign, especially British, influence on the ANC is diminishing. It is almost as if Zuma has some pangs of nostalgia for the old, Afrikaner-run South Africa, with its discipline, sense of patriotism, successful agriculture, frugal public salaries and respect for law and order."

Roodt continued: "There was never any reason for conflict between Afrikaners and blacks in the past as we have understood each other and cooperated for almost two centuries. However, outside elements, ranging from Britain and Sweden to the die-hard English communists of South Africa, incited conflict in our country so as to place us on the same path as the rest of sub-Saharan Africa, with its radicalism, ethnic strife and failed states."

Under Mbeki Afrikaners were vilified as "settlers who failed to depart". In his speech to the assembly, the leader of PRAAG stated that "after 1994 the ANC had lacked a model to deal with a large indigenous Western minority, speaking its own language and not English, French or Portuguese".

He went on to say that "Zuma is wise in appreciating that the radical Africanist model is a failure, as seen in Zimbabwe and many other postcolonial African countries. From his statements during the meeting, Zuma is clearly an admirer of the Afrikaner model of development with its emphasis on discipline, education, hard work, caring for the poor and successful agriculture".

The president of the ANC has accepted an invitation to visit the Voortrekker Monument, as well as a camp of the Voortrekker youth movement. Dr. Dan Roodt said: "I think Zuma's interest in Afrikaans culture is genuine. He should also visit the Afrikaans Literary Museum in Bloemfontein to discover perhaps the greatest cultural edifice in all of Africa, the prodigious output of Afrikaans works and translations in the twentieth century but which has been sadly neglected and even threatened during the rule of Thabo Mbeki."

Roodt also responded to a statement by the DA that Zuma had displayed an "ethnically and racially blinkered world view" in calling Afrikaners the only "true white South Africans".

"The DA is itself blind in its colonial liberalism that denies the multiethnic character of our state."

29 Opinion(s):

FishEagle said...

LOL

Loggi said...

Idiots

Anonymous said...

Roodt also responded to a statement by the DA that Zuma had displayed an "ethnically and racially blinkered world view" in calling Afrikaners the only "true white South Africans".

"The DA is itself blind in its colonial liberalism that denies the multiethnic character of our state."

Indeed much truth in both of these points. Let's face it, the one-world-order does nothing for White Africans!

Anonymous said...

There are differences and let us not continue to let the fools in "England" and "America" pretend otherwise: fact is, every election is about ethnicity and what each ethnic group will get out of it...
the DA and, until now, the ANC both have the interest of the ethnic groups running the US and UK at heart, and definitely NOT any of SA's Nations!

Vanilla Ice said...

Let me place it on record. I am deeply disappointed with PRAAG. It now seems expedient to blame the English. It is a myth that the Afrikaners single-handedly brought prudence and discipline to South African society, and the old South Africa was not without its divisions. I am not about to get into the contributions made by the English, suffice to say that if the old divisions between English and Afrikaans resurface, under this new strategy, then South Africa can go to hell. I have no interest in returning to those old divisions. Frankly, being English in an Afrikaans dominated country wasn't a walk in the park either.

WHITEADDER said...

Have a long and hard look at the Whites from Ex Rhodesia. Where are they today ? Thereafter make up your mind if the South African Whites can afford the luxury of standing divided.

Joe King said...

Xhosa / Zulu - English/Afrikaans - you get it ? Yeah Fisheagle i agree LOL !!!

ThisIsAfrica said...

Maybe PRAAG works for the state and their job is to foster a divide between English and Afrikaans?

How much do we know about the main players who make up PRAAG?
It seems Roodt used to be a communist/left winger, but has now changed his ways! They say that old habits die hard!

Ron Russell said...

I use to keep up with South African many years ago, when the struggle was going on for "one man, one vote". I was familiar with the ANC and it violent activies at the time. Like I said, a number of years ago. I came across your site quite by accident and decided I would use it to gather information that hopefully will bring me up-to-date again on a country I had loved many years ago. I don't pretend not to have any biases. I think those who claim objectivity in such matters are fooling themselves, at the very least, and worst attempting to fool others. I will visit your blog again soon. Maybe it will help me brush away some of the cob webs that have developed over the years caused by my neglect. From what I've seen in photos and others sources yours is a lovely country with a wide range of landscapes.

Doberman said...

Welcome Ron. You'll find the South African dream has died, yesterday to be exact, with the dropping of the charges against our corrupt pres-in-waiting being the final nail in the coffin. Sad.

Vanilla Ice said...

Ha ha, Dobes you are funny, and at the same time it is fucking tragic. You have called it correctly. It died yesterday, RIP. I think it is almost time for you and I to move on.

FishEagle said...

I've made peace with the Afrikaner nation's weaknesses, which includes stubbornness and pride (sometimes unnervingly similar to the blacks), and I suggest everybody does the same. Vanilla Ice, for what it’s worth, I always thought the English contributed much of the brains to SA.

Dachshund said...

I'm disappointed that Dan Roodt would attack Helen Zille like that. Zille is neither a colonialist nor a liberal. Next it will be the Sothos versus the Zulus. Let's all just devolve into tribalism and kill each other.

Leon Louw was right all those years ago when he said SA should have a canton system with each ethnic group living in their own area and a federal government like Switzerland. I suppose Dan Roodt would disagree with Louw's approach to multiethnicity just because Louw is a rooinek even though he has an Afrikaans/Dutch surname.

Pathetically petty and childish. If this kind of narrow thinking represents the calibre of reasoning of the majority of whites still living in South Africa then we truly deserve the government we are getting.

Anonymous said...

Dachshund said sarcastically: "Let's all just devolve into tribalism and kill each other."

Without any sarcasm I say, absolutely:"Let each nation have their own country where they can live at peace amongst their own and it will make it impossible for certain nations to sponge off others."

Problem here is, you've all been sucked in by the Western MSM still using the scare tactics of "communism" and "nazism", because without it, they would have to survive on their own... in a way you can understand: like those whites in SA who can't do without their servants, the big western bankers can't do without their mines! Maybe Roodt understands this.

Anonymous said...

Although I see myself as a Boer (because Afrikaner is language based and Boer is not) and have therefore always had a problem with PRAAG, on this point (re. western big business having too much say in how our lives are run in SA) I must agree with Roodt!

Dachshund said...

Whether Roodt "understands" that there are whites who can't do without their servants and western bankers who can't do without their mines - putting the priorities in the right order, with the issue of domestic servants coming first of course - that still does not justify a dismissive approach towards Zille and English speakers.

Where exactly does Dan Roodt come from? He wrote 'The Scourge of the ANC', in which he compares post-1994 ANC rule to Britain's final colonisation of South Africa in the early 1900s. Now any fool can see that with that kind of analogy he is ripe for the picking by the ANC. Rather let the ANC rule under Roodt's illusion that it will cooperate with the Afrikaners than have anything to do with the "British", which includes Helen Zille and other English speakers! In many ways Dan Roodt is not unlike Mugabe.

Dachshund said...

Oh I have a lot to say about western influence stuffing up South Africa as well. But let's not confuse pro-Islamic dimwits like Obama and Brown with local English speakers.

If it's the Boer war cadaver being hauled out again, well then there are a lot of skeletons rattling around in the Afrikaner cupboard. I'm far too polite to drag those out. I mean, Pieter Mulder can't help it that his father Connie was involved in the Information Scandal.

Anonymous said...

"But let's not confuse pro-Islamic dimwits like Obama and Brown with local English speakers."

I agree, but then I see most "local english speakers" (NOT "English")
as "Boers" who are indeed "white Africans"... however, the few english speaking whites in SA who have most power (incl. Zille) are most definitely NOT white Africans but rather employees of western (not so) "dimwits" who are indeed very sly and have used us as the scapegoat for over a century!

Fact is, the Boers (irrespective of language they speak) have no home... if you consider yourself "British" at least you have Britain!

Albeus Ergo Cogito said...

@anony "boer" 06h08.
Ag kak man!
Roodt, for reasons known only to himself, is trying to achieve something - who knows what. I'm pretty sure he has not been taken in by this rubbish.

Loggi said...

Fact is, the Boers (irrespective of language they speak) have no home... if you consider yourself "British" at least you have Britain!

You nailed it Anon.

Anonymous said...

Thanks Loggi, that's all I'm trying to get across to these guys!

Vanilla Ice said...

This thread seems to belie the true feelings beneath the thin veneer. Many, if not most, Afrikaners are out to seek self governance. You can barely tolerate the English and you have lost your lives of privilege. Look around you, South Africa is a shambles and the Afrikaners have disappointed. Everybody expected them to uphold the standards or to offer resistance, but nothing. If anything the Afrikaners have fawned and acquiesced at every turn. Cases in point? Jaco Bothma and FW De Klerk. The Afrikaners are complicit in South Africa's downfall. The English, of which I am one, must not labour under any illusion that the whites stand together, we don't. As regards you idiots that believe that we English can return to Britain, get a life. This shit has been thrown in our faces since time immemorial. It is bullshit. Do yourselves a favour and get to know a few english speakers, then ask if they have access to British passports. The answer is no. There are as many Afrikaners wandering around London and Perth as English.

Loggi said...

Well that is exactly the point. If you consider yourself British you have a home. If you consider yourself South African whether you are of British,Portuguese,Jewish decent or hold a foreign passport , that is besides the point.Insults or blame is not going to help anyone and especially not our families who are stuck in South Africa. When someone comes trough their window they do not care where you or your ancestors where born,which party you voted for in the previous election or if you are English ,Greek or Afrikaans. You are white and therefore disposable.
This whole English Afrikaans thing is a little lame. The South African economy was most certainly not only created by the British and Dutch decedents.I am from German and Scottish ancestry. This makes me a South African Boer regardless of which one of the 6 languages I am speaking at this precise moment

Islandshark said...

@ Vanilla Ice:

I have to agree with you here - I am probably as Boer as you get, generations of farmers in the family. From Dutch descent back to the 17th century in Cape.

This notion that the English with South African roots can go back to Britain, is absurd. Many of my friends in South Africa are English - even Hungarian, Greek, Italian, etc. They contributed to the country no less than I did (being a "true" Boer or Afrikaner or whatever label you want to give me).

There are more Afrikaner and Boer groups and movements in South Africa today than I can memorise the acronyms. Each with their own ideologies. And they beat the hell out of each other at every opportunity.

And what will they ever achieve by doing that?

Vanilla Ice said...

@Islandshark. Thanks. I have not been too happy with the direction of things lately, and was beginning to feel that I was the lone voice in the wilderness. I do not accept the logic that suggests that "outsiders" always have a passport to fall back on. It is spurious. I also treat with contempt, the patronising tone that Afrikaners display, by suggesting that they are more entitled "but it is okay we are prepared to share our homeland". Give me a break.

He of difficult days said...

And what will they ever achieve by doing that?

08 April 2009 03:03

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The Answer?
Natural selection: The weaker ones will fade away and the stronger ones will lead and grow

Anonymous said...

Natural selection: The weaker ones will fade away and the stronger ones will lead and grow


IS that not playing off in South Africa now? The blacks are stronger and out breeding everyone else?

Ron. said...

Vanilla Ice: There was in fact some resistance from the Boer descended [ ie: the folks who developed on the Cape frontier during the 1700s & were known as the Trekboers ] segment of the "Afrikaners" [ a political term which marginalized the Boer people & put them under the direction of the elitist leadership of the Cape Dutch descendents ] & there has always been resistance ever since the founding of the macro State. The first Boer resistance was in 1914 with the Maritz Rebellion. Then again with the rise of the Ossewa Brandwag during the 1940s. Then again with the rise of the mis-named & likely intelligence controlled AWB & the more authentic Boerestaat Party & its BWB wing.

Loggi. There are comparatively few Dutch ancestors as the ancestors of the Afrikaans speaking population were German / Frisian / Danish & French Huguenot.

Dan Roodt often makes some good points but I too am suspicious of his intent due to his past political background. I get the impression sometimes that he is a pied piper.

Anonymous said...

If you look at Dan Roodt's publications I have to disagree on the idiot statement made earlier in a comment. One might not agree with some of his views but he is far from an idiot.

The majority of Afrikaners/Boers/YouKnowWhoYouTheyAre will stay in .za no matter what, history has shown that. So it is important for them to foster good relations with fellow Africans.

The DA (and most of the oposition) demonize the ANC and play fear politics and i'm sick and tired of that. My opinion is that JZ is going to be a far better leader for south-africa than the outgoing administration, I hope i'm right!